"We haven't exactly tried," he says, in the most humiliated shame that he's been in for ages, given that he doesn't even talk about this with...well, he hadn't with Amy, but only because he hadn't wanted to hurt her and then she'd been gone. "I know there's PDS girls who did it, but I don't know if I could. We haven't gotten to the point of trying."

Though, he'd like to. He really would like to get there.